Theophilus of Antiochc. 180 · Origen of Alexandriac. 225
Second-century writers describe the Word as always within God and then "uttered" as Son when God made the world. Origen, about 225, denies outright that there was ever a time when the Son was not. 13
Arius (quoted by Athanasius)c. 320Created
Arius, a priest of Alexandria, taught about 320 that God was not always Father and that the Son was made from nothing: "there was when he was not". 4
Council of Nicaeac. 325Eternal Son
Nicaea answered in 325: begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father, and it condemned Arius's phrases word for word. 5
The answers given:
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Before Nicaea
150–325
180c. AD
Word came forth
Theophilus of Antioch fl. c. 180 ADTo Autolycus 2.22
What is the voice but the Word of God, who is also his Son? Not as the poets and mythographers say, sons of gods born from intercourse, but as the truth relates: the Word, always present within God's heart. Before anything came to be he had him as counselor, being his own mind and understanding. When God wished to make what he had planned, he begot this Word, uttering him, the firstborn of all creation.
An early two-stage picture: the Word always within God, then uttered as Son for creation. Nicaea later avoided any "before" in God's begetting.
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ἀλλὰ ὡς ἀληθεία διηγεῖται τὸν λόγον, τὸν ὄντα διαπαντὸς ἐνδιάθετον ἐν καρδίᾳ Θεοῦ. πρὸ γὰρ τὶ γίνεσθαι, τοῦτον εἶχε σύμβουλον, ἑαυτοῦ νοῦν καὶ φρόνησιν ὄντα. ὁπότε δ᾿ ἠθέλησεν ὁ Θεὸς ποιῆσαιLibri tres ad Autolycum Theophilus Antiochensis William Gilson Humphry Parker Cambridge 1852 Internet Archive (First1KGreek TEI, urn:cts:greekLit:tlg1725.tlg001) · English: translated for this page from the Greek
205c. AD
Word came forth
Tertullian c. 155–c. 220 ADAgainst Hermogenes 3
For God is both Father and judge, yet he is not therefore always Father and judge, because he is always God. For he could not be Father before the Son, nor judge before the offence. There was, however, a time when neither the offence nor the Son existed, the one to make him judge, the other to make God Father.
Against Hermogenes, who taught eternal matter, Tertullian distinguishes God's names: God is his name of substance, and is eternal; Lord and Father are titles that began when the things they name began. This belongs to the older scheme, seen in Theophilus, in which the Word was always within God and was uttered as Son for the making of the world; it is not yet Arius's teaching that the Son was made from nothing.
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quia et pater deus est et iudex deus est, non tamen ideo pater et iudex semper, quia deus semper. nam nec pater potuit esse ante filium nec iudex ante delictum. fuit autem tempus, cum et delictum et filius non fuit, quod iudicem et qui patrem deum faceret.Emil Kroymann Tertullian Quinti Septimi Florentis Tertulliani opera F. Tempsky G. Freytag Vienna Leipzig 1906 3 Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum 47 Internet Archive (OGL CSEL TEI, urn:cts:latinLit:stoa0275.stoa004) · English: translated for this page from the Latin
225c. AD
Eternal Son
Origen of Alexandria c. 185–c. 254 ADOn First Principles 1.2.9
So another power comes to be, subsisting in its own nature, as Scripture says, "a breath of the power of God" (Wisdom 7:25), drawing what it is from there. But there is no time when it was not. If anyone wants to say that it did not exist before but came into being later, let him give the reason why the Father, who made it subsist, did not do so before.
A hundred years before Arius, Origen denies the very phrase Arius would use. Survives in Rufinus's Latin, which sometimes smooths Origen.
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Efficitur igitur virtus altera in sua proprietate subsistens, ut ait sermo Scripturae, vapor quidam primae et ingenitae virtutis Dei, hoc quidem quod est, inde trahens: non est autem quando non fuerit. Si enim quis voluerit dicere quasi prius non exstiterit, sed postea ad subsistentiam venerit, dicat causam, quare qui eam subsistere fecit Pater, ante hoc non fecerit.Lommatzsch, Origenis opera omnia, vol. 21 (1847), De principiis 1.2.9 · English: translated for this page from the Latin
320c. AD
Created
Arius (quoted by Athanasius) c. 256–336 ADThalia, quoted in Athanasius, Against the Arians 1.5
God was not always Father; there was a time when God was alone and was not yet Father. Later he became Father. The Son was not always. For all things came to be from nothing, and all are creatures and things made; so the Word of God himself came to be from nothing, and there was when he was not, and he was not before he came to be, but he too had a beginning of being created. For, he says, God was alone, and the Word and Wisdom did not yet exist. Then, wishing to create us, he made one being and named him Word and Wisdom and Son, so that he might create us through him.
The phrases Nicaea condemned. Arius taught that the Son was created before all ages, and that the Father alone is without beginning.
Council of NicaeaThe Creed of Nicaea, preserved in Socrates, Church History 1.8
We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of all things visible and invisible; and in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father, only-begotten, that is, from the substance of the Father, God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father ... But those who say "there was when he was not" and "before he was begotten he was not" and "he came to be from nothing" ... these the catholic Church anathematizes.
The creed of 325 with its anathema, as Eusebius sent it home to his church. The longer creed recited today is the revision of 381.
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Πιστεύομεν εἰς ἕνα Θεὸν Πατέρα παντοκράτορα, πάντων ὁρατῶν τε καὶ ἀοράτων ποιητήν. Καὶ εἰς ἕνα Κύριον Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ, γεννηθέντα ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς, μονογενῆ, τουτέστιν ἐκ τῆς οὐσίας τοῦ Πατρὸς, Θεὸν ἐκ Θεοῦ καὶ φῶς ἐκ φωτὸς, Θεὸν ἀληθινὸν ἐκ Θεοῦ ἀληθινοῦ: γεννηθέντα, οὐ ποιηθέντα: ὁμοούσιον τῷ Πατρί ... Τοὺς δὲ λέγοντας ὅτι ἦν ποτὲ ὅτε οὐκ ἦν, καὶ πρὶν γεννηθῆναι οὐκ ἦν, καὶ ὅτι ἐξ οὐκ ὄντων ἐγένετοSocrates' Ecclesiastical history Socrates, Scholasticus Robert Hussey William Bright Oxford at the Clarendon Press Oxford 1893 HathiTrust (First1KGreek TEI, urn:cts:greekLit:tlg2057.tlg002) · English: translated for this page from the Greek
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Alexander of Alexandria, Letter to Alexander of Thessalonica
Arius's bishop explains the controversy. Preserved in Theodoret's Church History 1.4.
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