Let drunkenness not condemn wine, or overeating condemn food, or obscenity discredit desire. Its excess is…

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Let drunkenness not condemn wine, or overeating condemn food, or obscenity discredit desire.

Its excess is blameworthy.

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Nec vinum ebrietas, nec cibum condemnet crapula, nec concupiscentiam infamet obscenitas

Excessus - inquis - eius in culpa est

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Julian’s earlier work To Turbantius, in four books, survives only in the excerpts Augustine quotes in his six-book reply, Against Julian. The excerpts are grouped here by those six books. Latin source text is on each section when recovered.

Julian of Eclanum (c. 386–c. 455) was bishop of Eclanum in southern Italy until 418, when he was deposed and exiled for refusing to condemn Pelagius. The most learned Pelagian controversialist, he pursued Augustine across a decade of pamphlet war.

None of Julian's works survives directly; what remains is preserved in the long quotations of Augustine, who answered him book by book. Reconstructed from those hostile pages, Julian emerges as a formidable defender of free will, marriage, and the goodness of creation.

English follows Julian’s words as Augustine excerpts them in Against Julian. This is not a recovered complete To Turbantius.

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Translated from Augustine, Against Julian (Latin · Excerpts arranged by Augustine’s books)

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