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Fragments to Turbantius · §5.6.24 · Julian of Eclanum
Julian excerpts and scripture
How fittingly Jeremiah, with the chorus of prophets and all the saints, would cry out: ‘Who will give…
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How fittingly Jeremiah, with the chorus of prophets and all the saints, would cry out: ‘Who will give water to my head and a fountain of tears to my eyes?’ (Jeremiah 9:1 ).
Glorious struggles.
The wickedness of a declining age.
The ruin of morals.
The destruction of modesty.
They say with the Manichaeans that a necessity of evil exists in their flesh.
Latin source witness
Latin O quam digne Ieremias cum prophetarum choro et sanctorum omnium exclamaret: Quis dabit capiti meo aquam, et oculis meis fontem lacrimarum? [n66]
gloriosa certamina
augetis
occidui temporis pravitatem
estis ruina morum
pudoris interitus
cum Manichaeis dicunt, inesse carni suae mali necessitatem
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About this text Julian wrote in the early 400s, in the fight over Pelagius. This is later than the first three centuries of the church.
Julian’s earlier work To Turbantius, in four books, survives only in the excerpts Augustine quotes in his six-book reply, Against Julian. The excerpts are grouped here by those six books. Latin source text is on each section when recovered.
Julian of Eclanum (c. 386–c. 455) was bishop of Eclanum in southern Italy until 418, when he was deposed and exiled for refusing to condemn Pelagius. The most learned Pelagian controversialist, he pursued Augustine across a decade of pamphlet war.
None of Julian's works survives directly; what remains is preserved in the long quotations of Augustine, who answered him book by book. Reconstructed from those hostile pages, Julian emerges as a formidable defender of free will, marriage, and the goodness of creation.
English follows Julian’s words as Augustine excerpts them in Against Julian. This is not a recovered complete To Turbantius.
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