‘Students attending lectures’ will shout against you, ‘What times! What morals!’ (Cicero, Against Catiline…

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‘Students attending lectures’ will shout against you, ‘What times! What morals!’ (Cicero, Against Catiline 1)

Augustine reports Julian’s allegation that he thinks the genital part of the body comes from a different source than the whole body.

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auditoriales scholasticos

O tempora, o mores!

aliunde quam unde totum est, esse putem genitalem corporis partem

Ex hac parte pudor pugnat, abs te petulantia; hinc continentia, illinc libido

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Julian’s earlier work To Turbantius, in four books, survives only in the excerpts Augustine quotes in his six-book reply, Against Julian. The excerpts are grouped here by those six books. Latin source text is on each section when recovered.

Julian of Eclanum (c. 386–c. 455) was bishop of Eclanum in southern Italy until 418, when he was deposed and exiled for refusing to condemn Pelagius. The most learned Pelagian controversialist, he pursued Augustine across a decade of pamphlet war.

None of Julian's works survives directly; what remains is preserved in the long quotations of Augustine, who answered him book by book. Reconstructed from those hostile pages, Julian emerges as a formidable defender of free will, marriage, and the goodness of creation.

English follows Julian’s words as Augustine excerpts them in Against Julian. This is not a recovered complete To Turbantius.

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