On Adoration and Worship in Spirit and Truth, Book 6 · §29

Hours not good/bad; same hour opposite fates

For time being continuous, and having an always-flowing carrying unto the forward, God somehow as it were subjected it by mid-cuttings of seasons, hours and days and by recirculations again unto measures and numbers. For it was necessary, necessary, for those not having a beginning-less out-throw unto being, and as good as not yet about to arrive unto the end of their own life, and of such a time perhaps—beginning, I mean, and ending, and as it were co-establishing its own nature with those not always existing. Therefore nothing else having been brought in for those upon the earth through seasons, hours and days, except only the circular run-through and exact measurement, what do some myth-mold—things which it is also laughable to think? And they say some of the hours are good-working, yet others not such, and they make a very exact watching, distributing to them the being able to bring on both the prospering and the opposite, to whomever they should perhaps choose, or to whomever necessity should make them coincide? Are these things then not already nonsense and terrible mind-harm, and some diabolic snare craftily prepared for evil?

Palladius: I say so, and it is clear.

Cyril: For just as we were saying, that they were persuading us to hang the things according to ourselves upon Fates and Fortune and alien nods, showing our carefulness empty, and carrying us away from care on behalf of ourselves; so also here preparing the same wandering for us, they say the things from days and hours have been hung upon those upon the earth as from a necessary yoke, having a hard-to-flee run-out; and the paradoxical thing (for such a myth is old-wives’), although seeing countless failures following the babblings about these things, they do not gift to experience the being able to prove the trickery; yet writing down badness of hours and days, and bringing the same vote upon the sinkings-to-the-less of the lunar cycle, what ever would they say? If indeed someone should wish in one hour and in a day perhaps to number and say those being in prosperities, and those having fallen into the last calamities—although what is base by nature would become for everyone such as it has also been born; if then hour and dawn are harmful for those upon earth, why does the harm from them not walk through unto all in equality; yet some are in the most prayed-for things, and others have sometimes been destroyed altogether, and full of the evil going unto a limit, have become a myth for the life, and a hypothesis of a tragic stage? Yet it is possible to see for those at least wishing exactly to know and work out what is most beneficial, that according to the same day and hour perhaps, this one has been caught of adultery or murder and pays bitter justices to those judging, yet this one again luxuriates in praises of temperance and orderliness and of fairness beyond measure. Yet neither would a day and hour bar the unbridled one from being temperate, nor indeed would it whet the fair and orderly one unto disorder and unbridled pleasures; yet rather the free judgment unto every whatever, and

Greek

νας. Συνεχῆ γὰρ ὄντα τὸν χρόνον, καὶ ἀείῤῥυτον ἔχοντα τὴν εἰς τὸ πρόσω φορὰν, ταῖς τῶν καιρῶν, ὡρῶν τε καὶ ἡμερῶν οἱονεί πως διὰ μέσον παρεγκοπαῖς καὶ ἀνακυκλήσεσι ταῖς εἰς αὖθις αὖ μέτροις τε καὶ ἀριθμοῖς ὑπέταξε Θεός. Ἔδει γὰρ, ἔδει τοῖς οὐκ ἄναρχον ἔχουσιν εἰς τὸ εἶναι διεκβολὴν, καὶ ὅσον οὐδέπω πρὸς τὸ τῆς ἰδίας ζωῆς ἀφιξομένοις τέλος, καὶ χρόνου τοῦ τοιοῦδε τυχὸν, ἀρχομένου τε, φημὶ, καὶ λήγοντος, καὶ τοῖς οὐκ οὖσιν ἀεὶ τὴν οἰκείαν ὥσπερ συγκαθιστάντος φύσιν. Εἰσκεκομισμένου τοιγαροῦν οὐδενὸς ἑτέρου τοῖς ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς διά τε καιρῶν, ὡρῶν τε καὶ ἡμερῶν, πλὴν ὅτι καὶ μόνης τῆς ἐν κύκλῳ διαδρομῆς καὶ ἀναμετρήσεως ἀκριβοῦς, τί μυθοπλαστοῦσί τινες ἃ καὶ γελοῖον ἐννοεῖν; καὶ τὰς μὲν τῶν ὡρῶν ἀγαθοεργοὺς, τὰς δὲ, οὐ τοιαύτας εἶναί φασι, καὶ ἀκριβῆ λίαν ποιοῦνται τὴν ἐπιτήρησιν, αὐταῖς ἀπονέμοντες τὸ ἐπάγειν δύνασθαι τό τε εὐημερεῖν καὶ τὸ ἐναντίον, οἷς ἂν ἕλοιντο τυχὸν, ἢ οἷς ἂν αὐτὰς ἀνάγκη συμβαίνειν; Ἆρ' οὖν οὐχὶ λῆρός τε ἤδη ταυτὶ καὶ φρενοβλάβεια δεινὴ, πάγη δέ τις διαβολικὴ φιλοκακούργως ἐσκευασμένη;

{ΠΑΛΛ.} Φημὶ, καὶ ἔστιν ἐναργές.

{ΚΥΡ.} Ὥσπερ γὰρ ἐλέγομεν, ὅτι Μοίραις τε καὶ Τύχῃ καὶ ἀλλοτρίοις νεύμασι τὰ καθ' ἑαυτοὺς ἡμᾶς ἀνάπτειν ἀνέπειθον, εἰκαῖον ἡμῖν ἀποφαίνοντες τὸ ἐπιμελὲς, καὶ μερίμνης ἀποκομίζοντες τῆς ὑπὲρ σφῶν αὐτῶν· οὕτω κἀνθάδε τὴν αὐτὴν ἡμῖν ἐξαρτύοντες πλάνησιν, καθάπερ ἐξ ἀναγκαίου ζυγοῦ τὰ ἐξ ἡμερῶν καὶ ὡρῶν ἐπηρτῆσθαί φασι, τοῖς ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, δυσδιάφυκτον ἔχοντα τὴν διεκδρομήν· καὶ τόγε παράδοξον (γραοπρεπὴς μὲν γὰρ ὁ τοιόσδε μῦθος), ὕθλοις δὲ τοῖς περὶ τούτων νηρίθμους ὁρῶντες ἑπομένας τὰς ἀποτεύξεις, οὐ χαρίζονται τῇ πείρᾳ τὸ διελέγχειν δύνασθαι τὸν φενακισμόν· φαυλότητα δὲ καταγράφοντες ὡρῶν τε καὶ ἡμερῶν, καὶ ταῖς εἰς τὸ μεῖον καταδύσεσι τοῦ σεληνιαίου κύκλου τὴν αὐτὴν ἐπάγοντες ψῆφον, ὅ τί ποτε ἄρα φαῖεν ἄν. Εἰ δὴ βούλοιτό τις ἐν ὥρᾳ μιᾷ καὶ ἐν ἡμέρᾳ τυχὸν, τοὺς μὲν ὄντας ἐν εὐημερίαις, τοὺς δὲ ταῖς ἐσχάταις ἐναλόντας συμφοραῖς, ἀπαριθμεῖσθαι καὶ λέγειν, καίτοι τὸ φύσει φαῦλον παντί τῳ γένοιτ' ἂν ὁποῖον εἶναι καὶ πέφυκεν· εἴπερ οὖν ἐστιν ὥρα τε καὶ ἠὼς τοῖς ἐπὶ γῆς ἐπιζήμια, τί μὴ εἰς πάντας ἐν ἴσῳ τὰ ἐξ αὐτῶν διαστείχει βλάβη· ἀλλ' οἱ μέν εἰσιν ἐν τοῖς ἄγαν εὐκταιοτάτοις, οἱ δὲ διολώλασιν ἔσθ' ὅτε, καὶ τοῦ πρὸς λῆξιν ἰόντος ἔμπλεω κακοῦ, μῦθος τῷ βίῳ γεγόνασι, καὶ σκηνῆς ὑπόθεσις τραγικῆς; Ἀλλ' ἔστιν ἰδεῖν τοῖς γε ἀκριβῶς ἐθέλουσι τὸ ὅτι μάλιστα λυσιτελὲς εἰδέναι τε καὶ ἐκπονεῖν, ὅτι κατὰ τὴν αὐτὴν ἡμέραν τε καὶ ὥραν τυχὸν, ὁ δεῖνα μὲν ἥλω μοιχείας ἢ φόνου καὶ πικρὰς τοῖς δικάζουσιν ἀποτιννύει τὰς δίκας, ὁ δεῖνα δὲ αὖ σωφροσύνης τε καὶ κοσμιότητος καὶ τῆς ὑπὲρ ἄγαν ἐπιεικείας ἐπαίνοις ἐντρυφᾷ. Ἀλλ' οὔτε τὸν ἀκόλαστον ἀπείρξειεν ἂν ἡμέρα τε καὶ ὥρα σωφρονεῖν, οὔτε μὴν τὸν ἐπιεικῆ καὶ κόσμιον, καταθήξειεν ἂν εἰς ἀκοσμίαν καὶ ἀκολάστους ἡδονάς· γνώμη δὲ μᾶλλον ἡ ἐλευθέρα πρὸς πᾶν ὁτιοῦν, καὶ

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