God alone foretells; fire-purification mocked; Greek myths
All my counsel will stand, and all as many as I wish, I will do.’ Alone then from our side will be laid down for the God beyond all, the being able both clearly to discern, and to foretell without wandering the things about to be; yet otherwise nonsense and old-wives’ little myths, buffooneries and trickings, the things from others, who having corrupted the mind speak the things from their own heart, according as it has been written, and make the lie a starting-point of money-talk.
Palladius: True. For it holds thus, and not otherwise.
Cyril: We will hold off then also from this, and having left a twisted path, we will walk the one unto the straight, clinging to God single-turned, and voting the truth for the saints’ voices.
Palladius: Very much.
Cyril: And why will we not also count that hated besides these, and say it is a portion of Greek godlessness—the loving somehow to be purified around by fire and water, and by some other such manners?
Palladius: And very much. Therefore also a divine oracle said clearly: ‘There will not be found in you one purifying his son or his daughter in fire.’
Cyril: How well the law was sounding these things to us, and refused the doing! For I think the matter is full of emptiness, and lacking the all-best and wise reasoning; for in what manner will fire’s nature benefit us? and torches running around in a circle how would they lift out the one who has sinned? For of bronze or then of some other such material, fire’s cast melts out the filth. Yet of mind and soul’s profanation, in what manner will it make disappear? Are these things then not already of laughter, and inventions of empty thoughts?
Palladius: Altogether so.
Cyril: And I would say as most sweetly to the select of Greeks, who have become inventors of such shameful practices, and introducers to the others: What then doing, O noble and wise ones, that Tityos whom you say was born from earth, you punish in Hades, setting vultures around him as diners of the livers, because having admired a little woman’s beauty he was sick with the desire? And for Tantalus you say a stone has been hung, and you mythologize to the young that he pays justices of an unbridled tongue? And having bound Ixion with long and always-moving turns of a wheel, you say he endures a penalty upon this, not out of tune with the gods from your deceit; yet yourselves and others although having fallen into terrible and most out-of-place evils, you free with fire and shoots, as you somehow think, and gift the washing-off of the charges, although very much condemned. And for Tityos, tell me, and those just now named, have you set a hard and inescapable justice—the perhaps coming to be in lack of fire? And indeed the most thieving according to you and carrier of fire to humans—I mean Prometheus, if somehow that one also was at all—was rich with fire’s use, and before
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Πᾶσά μου ἡ βουλὴ στήσεται, καὶ πάντα ὅσα βούλομαι, ποιήσω.» Μόνῳ δὴ οὖν ἀνακείσεται πρὸς ἡμῶν τῷ πάντων ἐπέκεινα Θεῷ, τὸ διειδέναι τε σαφῶς, καὶ προαγορεύειν ἀπλανῶς δύνασθαι τὰ ἐσόμενα· ὕθλοι δὲ ἄλλως καὶ γραώδη μυθάρια, βωμολοχίαι τε καὶ φενακισμοὶ, τὰ παρ' ἑτέρων, οἳ τὸν νοῦν παρεφθορότες τὰ ἀπὸ καρδίας αὐτῶν λαλοῦσι, κατὰ τὸ γεγραμμένον, καὶ ἀργυρολογίας ἀφορμὴν ποιοῦνται τὸ ψεῦδος.
{ΠΑΛΛ.} Ἀληθές. Ἔχει γὰρ ὧδε, καὶ οὐχ ἑτέρως.
{ΚΥΡ.} Ἀφεξόμεθα δὴ οὖν καὶ τοῦδε, καὶ οἶμον ἀφέντες τὴν διεστραμμένην, βαδιούμεθα τὴν ἐπ' εὐθὺ, Θεῷ μονοτρόπως προσκείμενοι, καὶ ταῖς τῶν ἁγίων φωναῖς ἐπιψηφιζόμενοι τὴν ἀλήθειαν.
{ΠΑΛΛ.} Καὶ μάλα.
{ΚΥΡ.} Τί δὲ οὐχὶ κἀκεῖνο πρὸς τούτοις ἡγησόμεθα στυγητὸν, μοῖράν τε εἶναί φαμεν Ἑλληνικῆς ἀθεότητος, τό τε περικαθαίρεσθαι φιλεῖν τάχα που πυρὶ καὶ ὕδατι, καὶ ἑτέροις τισὶ τοιούτοις τρόποις;
{ΠΑΛΛ.} Καὶ μάλιστά γε. Τοιγάρτοι καὶ θεῖον ἔφη χρησμῴδημα σαφῶς· «Οὐχ εὑρεθήσεται ἐν σοὶ περικαθαίρων τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ ἢ τὴν θυγατέρα αὐτοῦ ἐν πυρί.»
{ΚΥΡ.} Ὡς εὖ γε ἡμῖν ὁ νόμος προσεφώνει ταυτὶ, καὶ ἀπέφησε τὸ δρᾷν! Εἰκαιότητος γὰρ οἶμαι τὸ χρῆμα μεστὸν, καὶ λογισμοῦ τητώμενον τοῦ παναρίστου καὶ σοφοῦ· ὀνήσει γὰρ κατὰ τίνα δὴ τρόπον ἡ πυρὸς ἡμᾶς φύσις; καὶ δᾷδες ἐν κύκλῳ περιθέουσαι πῶς ἂν ἐξέλοιντο τὸν ἡμαρτηκότα; Χαλκοῦ μὲν γὰρ ἤγουν ἑτέρας τοιαύτης τινὸς ὕλης, ἐκτήκει τὸν ῥύπον ἡ πυρὸς βολή. Νοῦ δὲ καὶ ψυχῆς βεβήλωσιν, τίνα τρόπον ἀφανιεῖ; Ἆρ' οὖν, οὐ γέλωτος ἤδη ταυτὶ, καὶ φληνάφων ἐννοιῶν εὑρέματα;
{ΠΑΛΛ.} Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν.
{ΚΥΡ.} Φαίην δ' ἂν ὡς ἥδιστα τοῖς Ἑλλήνων λογάσιν, οἳ τῶν τοιούτων αἰσχρῶν ἐπιτηδευμάτων εὑρεταὶ γεγόνασι, καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις εἰσηγηταί· Τί δὴ ἄρα δρῶντες, ὦ γενναῖοι καὶ σοφοὶ, τὸν μὲν Τιτυὸν ἐκεῖνον, ὃν ἐκφύναι λέγετε γῆς, εἰς ᾅδου κολάζετε, γῦπας αὐτῷ περιιστάντες τῶν ἡπάτων δαιτυμόνας, ὥραν ὅτι γυναίου τεθαυμακὼς ἠῤῥώστησε τὴν ἐπιθυμίαν; Ταντάλῳ δὲ λίθον ἐπηρτῆσθαί φατε, καὶ γλώττης αὐτὸν ἀκολάστου εἰσπράττεσθαι δίκας μυθολογεῖτε τοῖς νέοις; κύκλου δὲ μακραῖς καὶ ἀεικινήτοις περιστροφαῖς, τὸν Ἰξίονα καταδήσαντες, ποινὴν ἀνατλῆναι ἐπὶ τῷδέ φατε, τοῖς ἐξ ἀπάτης ὑμῶν οὐκ ἀπᾴδουσαν θεοῖς, σφᾶς δὲ αὐτοὺς καὶ ἑτέρους καίτοι δεινοῖς καὶ ἐκτοπωτάτοις ἐναλόντας κακοῖς, πυρὶ καὶ θαλλοῖς ἀπαλλάττετε, καθάπερ οἴεσθέ που, καὶ τῶν ἐγκλημάτων χαρίζεσθε τὴν ἀπόνιψιν, καί τοι ἄγαν κατεγνωσμένοις. Τιτυῷ δὲ, εἰπέ μοι, καὶ τοῖς ἀρτίως ὠνομασμένοις, τὸ ἐν ἐνδείᾳ τάχα που γενέσθαι πυρὸς, σκληρὰν καὶ ἀδιεξίτητον ἐπίθετε δίκην; Καὶ μὴν ὅ γε καθ' ὑμᾶς κλεπτίστατος καὶ πυρὸς ἀνθρώποις διακομιστὴς, τὸν Προμηθέα λέγω, εἴ τίς περ ὅλως κἀκεῖνος ἦν, τὴν πυρὸς ἐπλούτει χρῆσιν, καὶ πρό γε
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Cyril continues the dialogue with Palladius. Book 6 of a seventeen-book dialogue — not the whole work.
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