Holy Scripture
One God, Old and New Testaments
54 passages, 11 quoted here · Broad agreement in this library · Against: Marcionism
The same God speaks in the Old Testament and the New, against those who set the two against each other.
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Each row is one claim. Each name is a writer, placed at the date of the passage. Select a name to read what they said.
2 of the 3 writers here teach: “One God of both Testaments.” They answer a rival view: “Law and Gospel belong to two different gods.”
teaches it partly rejects it later writer, summary only
Apostolic FathersApostolicBefore NicaeaBefore NicaeaNicaea to ChalcedonNicaea to 451After ChalcedonAfter 451
One God of both Testaments2 teach
Law and Gospel belong to two different gods2 reject
The new covenant comes from the same God as the old3 teach
100 AD200300400500Nicaea 325
What each writer said, earliest first
Let us see whether this people or the first one inherits, and whether the covenant belongs to us or to them. Listen, then, to what the Scripture says about the people: Isaac prayed to the Lord for his wife Rebekah because she was barren, and she conceived (Genesis 25:21).
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Greek
Ἴδωμεν δὲ εἰ οὗτος ὁ λαὸς κληρονομεῖ ἡ ὁ πρῶτος, καὶ εἰ ἡ διαθήκη εἰς ἡμᾶς ἢ εἰς ἐκείνους. ἀκούσατε οὖν περὶ τοῦ λαοῦ τί λέγει ἡ γραφή: Ἐδεῖτο δὲ Ἰσαὰκ περὶ Ῥεβέκκας τῆς γυναικὸς αὐτοῦ, ὅτι στεῖρα ἦν: καὶ συνέλαβεν.
Yes, but let us see whether the covenant God swore to give the people was actually given. It was given, but the people themselves were not worthy to receive it because of their sins. The prophet says that Moses fasted on Mount Sinai for forty days and forty nights to receive the Lord's covenant for the people.
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Greek
Ναί. ἀλλὰ ἴδωμεν, εἰ ἡ διαθήκη, ἣν ὤμοσεν τοῖς πατράσιν δοῦναι τῷ λαῷ, εἰ δέδωκεν. δέδωκεν: αὐτοὶ δὲ οὐκ ἐγένοντο ἄξιοι λαβεῖν διὰ τὰς ἁμαρτίας αὐτῶν.
John, the Lord's disciple, proclaims this faith because he wants to tear out the error that Cerinthus sowed in human hearts — and earlier still, the error that the so-called Nicolaitans planted.
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Many prophets and righteous men, knowing through the Holy Spirit that He would come, prayed to live in the time when they might see their Lord face to face and hear His words.
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We do not know God by his magnitude; it is impossible to measure the Father. But we are led to God through his Word by his love, and by obeying him we always learn how great God is. He himself establishes, chooses, and adorns all things through himself — he who is present to us.
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Thus the new and old brought out of the treasure speak, without contradiction, of the two testaments: the old, which was the former legislation, and the new, which is the way of life according to the Gospel.
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Where was Marcion then, that Pontic shipowner and student of Stoicism? Where was Valentinus, the follower of Platonism? The record shows they were not always what they became;
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We also need to defend that very clear proof against the clamor of the opposing side. They claim Marcion didn't so much innovate the rule by separating Law and Gospel as revert to a rule previously adulterated.
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If Marcion preaches a new God while trying to shut out the old God's law, why does he lay down not a single rule about this new deity, but only about the old law — unless it's because faith stayed put in the Creator, so that only the Creator's law could still be acknowledged?
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Ponticus drags out two gods like the twin Symplegades that wrecked his ship: the Creator, our God, whom he cannot deny, and his own deity, whom he will never prove.
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So the whole debate comes down to numbers: whether we're allowed to posit two gods — maybe by poetic license, maybe by artistic license, and now, heretical license too. But Christian truth calls it straight: if God isn't one, God isn't. Period.
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Other passages filed here (43)
- Irenaeus of Lyons, Against Heresies 3.4c. 130–c. 202 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 10c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 11c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 12c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 13c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 14c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 15c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 16c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 17c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 18c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 19c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 1c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 22c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 23c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 24c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 25c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 26c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 27c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 28c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 29c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 30c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 31c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 32c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 33c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 34c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 35c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 36c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 37c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 38c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 39c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 40c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 41c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 42c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 43c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 4c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 5c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 6c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 7c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 8c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, Against Marcion 9c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Tertullian, On the Flesh of Christ 5c. 155–c. 220 AD
- Origen of Alexandria, On First Principles 4c. 185–c. 254 AD
- Novatian, On the Trinity 30fl. c. 250 AD